Animal Kingdom night photo meet Dec. 2

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"ddindy" said:
I'll have my SB-800 with me, but wouldn't the strobe freeze the waterfall rather than giving that wonderful ethereal effect of a long exposure? ; Is there some technique that you know and will teach us all?

Use Rear-sync flash setting at dusk. ; How far away is that waterfall from the trail, Jeff?
 
I think I had the camera locked open in bulb and handheld the strobe a few times. ; If I remember the waterfall is maybe 20-30' back? ; Seems like it should have worked better but that was a while back and I probably screwed something up. ; Plus is is extremely dark back there- as is a lot of AK at night. ; A small flashlight to see your camera settings is a must.
 
"Roger" said:
Modeling flash? ; (just a thought)

Good thought, but the few times I've played with my modeling flash it appears to be a continuous series of low-power strobes.

If we really want to go exotic, I think I still have a few flashbulbs buried somewhere. ; The light curve on a flashbulb is flatter and longer, whereas on a strobe it's a tall, sharp spike.

The only trick will be finding the flash gun (which is also buried somewhere) and a battery for it. ; The battery is about the same size as a double-A, but it's square and has an unusual voltage rating.

Another idea for Jeff's shot: ; One of Tim's day into night shots. ; Take a shot around sunset to light the waterfall, then come back and take another when it's dark, and combine them in your favorite editor. ; Call it time-lapse HDR.
 
I know a lot of this is "schemin' and dreamin'," but if you guys spend all of the time on elaborate shots like the 3 or 4 I've now seen discussed, you are going to come back with like 10 night time shots from all of your time during Pixelmania! ;

These complicated solutions might produce a really cool shot, but time after dark is a pretty precious resource. ; Maybe it's just me, but I tend to shoot at WDW with the motto: "keep it simple".
 
"WDWFigment" said:
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to shoot at WDW with the motto: "keep it simple".

Thanks for the tip, Tom. ; We were getting kind of crazy, weren't we? ; If AK was open after dark every day, it would be a lot easier to try some of these ideas. ; For a single evening, though, simple and quick is good.
 
"WDWFigment" said:
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to shoot at WDW with the motto: "keep it simple".

Some of the people going to Pixelmania (and some have participated in this conversation) got to WDW so much that they have probably moved beyond the need to keep it simple anymore since they know they'll be back again, and again, and again
 
"Grumpwurst" said:
Some of the people going to Pixelmania (and some have participated in this conversation) got to WDW so much that they have probably moved beyond the need to keep it simple anymore since they know they'll be back again, and again, and again

That's perfectly fine, too if that's what people want to do. ; I know I love seeing pictures that have a nice setup and some work behind them (I know I'll never get these shots). ; Just a reminder for those with big plans who may also want to get as many pictures as they can. ; I know I love to scheme about how I can get some shots, and I think up elaborate plans too (isn't that half the fun), but when push comes to shove, I go for quantity over quality. ; Like I said, maybe that's just me.
 
I'm basically a beginner with a D60 and a cheap tripod. ; No special equipment except with what comes with the camera. ; So this is more of a learning expedition than me going out to get the best shot. ; I'm hoping my pictures improve on this solo trip, that's my gameplan.
 
several of us are coming well equipped, and i'll be there well before 1630 as i will be at wdw early am 12/1, we can cater to both groups, those wanting to climb the learning curve and those with more elaborate shots in mind

ie: jermsworld, i can meet up with you before hand, and we'll work on a little daytime ak tutorial, i've got a little skill, and we can learn and work on it together, you'll be amazed how much we can up you game in 3 days, trust me, we may not be advertising in outdoor photography yet, but this is a real photo learning experience, something for everyone
 
"ddindy" said:
We're planning to meet at the It's A Bug's Life Fastpass location at 4:30. ; Since my flight doesn't arrive until 3:30, Scott will be taking charge for the first hour or so.

One of the first photo stops will be at Flame Tree BBQ for sunset shots of Everest. ; If you have photo suggestions, please post them. ; I'm sure there will be lots of spontaneous opportunities as well.

Just a reminder to where we'll be meeting up and the evening shooting location. ; Sunset is at 5:28PM on December 2nd.

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View from the Flame Tree BBQ sitting area.
 
Team effort - how about one or two people to man all of our cameras on tripods...press all the shutters/remotes with a 30-sec exposure, then 5-8 of us can spread out on the trail all around the area and on signal, fire off our flash units. ; Voila! ; :)
 
The old open flash trick. ; I like it. ; Here's another place something like that might work:

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Some other photo possibilities: ; Everest

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Tree of Life

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"ddindy" said:
The old open flash trick. ; I like it. ; Here's another place something like that might work:

Dur I did that, slightly different angle before....(back before the Mk3)

No flash:
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Manually fired off camera flash:
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Duh! ; I just noticed there will be a full moon on December 2nd! ; Dennis, add this to the OP: Moonrise will be at 5:51PM...now to figure out the compass direction. ; Anyone got a geographical map of Animal Kingdom laying around? ; :D
 
"ddindy" said:
Great minds think alike, Scott - I just looked up the same information myself. ; This is my shortcut to an overall view of Walt Disney World on Google Maps:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=28.3 ... 1&t=h&z=13

Thanks, Dennis! ; BTW, is the top of a Google Map view North? ; The moonrise azimuth is 61.2 degrees. ; Thinking there might be a vantage point where the full moon and Everest could be lined up when the moon is still close to the horizon and magnified by the atmosphere.
 
It usually is north for me. ; Unlike Google Earth, there may not be a way to rotate a Google Map so that north is not up (other in street view).

I like your idea. ; It looks like the area around Flame Tree will offer the best angle. ; We may want to schedule things to return to Flame Tree near the end of the evening. ; (The moon's elevation is only 24 degrees at 8 pm. ; If it's not cloudy, I'll have to see how high that is tonight.)

Watch the skies!
 
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