Oh My! Where did "Partners" go?

Discussion in 'The Magic Kingdom Photos' started by zackiedawg, Mar 6, 2009.

  1. zackiedawg

    zackiedawg Member Staff Member

    On my going-through-the-archives project, I am learning things I had long since forgotten about Disney World. I was digging through some old slides from the '80s and was surprised to find this shot from the rotunda area in front of the castle:


    My first thought was..."Where's the Partners statue??!!" Only in my distant memory did I remember that the statue wasn't there until later...hard to remember it not being there!

    So, for history buffs...thought I'd share a snap of Magic Kingdom, circa 1984, with no Partners statue.
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  2. goofmick

    goofmick Member

    Justin, I'm really loving the old pics.
  3. Craig

    Craig Member Staff Member

  4. zackiedawg

    zackiedawg Member Staff Member

    It's been fun for me too - I have wanted badly to go through some of my old slides and photos to see if anything interesting can be found...I just never really had time to sit there with a slide loupe and go through hundreds of the little buggers! I finally dedicated some time this week to turn off the TV at night when I get home, and just work on this project a bit.

    I thought some others might enjoy the look back too - since I have been to the parks every year of my life since the month they opened...I should have some archive shots somewhere of just about everything. It's just a matter of finding them, or convincing relatives to let me go through their shoeboxes!
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  5. Scottwdw

    Scottwdw Member

    Justin, how do you convert a slide to a digital image AND enlarge it? My daughter scanned some for me but couldn't figure out how to get them bigger than the image of the slide, itself.

    Thanks for any help! I'd love to get a lot of my slides converted to the size you show here.
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  6. zackiedawg

    zackiedawg Member Staff Member

    It's not too hard if you have a scanner that can do slides.

    The resolution of the scan should be the key. Most decent scanners nowadays are capable of at least 600-1200dpi scanning...and 600 dpi should be plenty for slides even for large prints up to 8x10 or so. When I scanned the above slides at 600dpi on my scanner, they came out to approximately 3500 pixels on the longest side...so quite large. From there, I could edit them in my Paint Shop pro program for color, contrast, etc to account for some fading, scratches, etc on the old slides, then crop them to get rid of edges and borders...usually I use a cropping template like 4:3 or 3:2...and end up with a final result around 2850 pixels on the longest side. I save that for keeps, then make another copy which i downsize to 800 pixels, run some unsharp mask to sharpen them up a little, and those are the versions I upload.

    The biggest problem I had previously was that my decent scanner only projected light from the bottom, so to scan slides, they either came out way too dark, or I had to lay paper over them and shine a flashlight down to 'backlight' the slide for the scanner. I decided since I was really going to work on this project with many old slides (not just Disney...I've got cruises, vacations, etc going back 20+ years), I would buy a scanner capable of slide scanning specifically - meaning the scanner had backlighting capability built in to the lid. I bought an $80 Canon flatbed scanner that can do 600dpi, has backlighting, and can handle 4 slides at once in a slide-holder. It made life easy, as the scanner first does a test scan, figures out where the photo parts of the slides are, and offers you the 4 frames in thumbnail view, already cropped free of the slide frame. You can checkmark the ones you want to scan, or edit the cropped border if the scanner got it wrong, and then let the scanner do the work. It takes roughly 4 minutes to scan all 4 slides, at 600dpi each. As soon as it's done, it deposits the 4 scans into the photo editing suite of your choice (I have them laoded into PSP8), so you can edit and save.

    I'd recommend picking up an inexpensive slide scanner - you can find plenty under $100. But if you don't want to or can't, you can get by using any flatbed scanner by putting the slides on the glass, laying a diffuse white paper, cloth, waxpaper, etc over the slides, and putting a bright light source over them (the more diffuse and bright the light, the better the results, so you don't get 'hotspots' in the scans).

    Set the dpi to 300, and you should end up with photo sizes similar to a 3mp photo...At 600dpi, you should be in the range of a 6-8mp photo. That'll give plenty of leeway to crop, downsize, and post at this size!
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  7. Scottwdw

    Scottwdw Member

    Thanks, Justin! How about the model for that Canon scanner? Sounds like it's a great deal.
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  8. Roger

    Roger Member Staff Member

    Justin, were you shooting medium format back then? 600 dpi to 3500 pixels wide means 5.8 inches original.

    I know my flatbed can go to 3200 native I believe, which gives about 3500/4000 wide on 35mm negatives.

    Anyway, Scott, I have a Canon 8xxx series, it has a light lid, and you can scan either 4 35mm, 2 strips of 35mm negatives or 1 strip of MF film at a time.
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  9. zackiedawg

    zackiedawg Member Staff Member

    Hmmm...no, standard 35mm. Maybe I was scanning at higher res than 600dpi...I forget what I was using! I might have been usign 1200dpi. I know my scans have been coming in around 3000 pixels plus or minus a few dozen on the long end. Standard 35mm slides. I'll double check the model of my scanner when I get home - It sounds similar to Roger's in the way it can scan, but I don't think mine goes up to 3200...I think it caps at 1600 or so.
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  10. PolynesianMedic

    PolynesianMedic Global Moderator Staff Member

    Justin, thanks for the old shots. I actually miss those trees. They offered some nice shade and framing to that area, I thought.
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  11. zackiedawg

    zackiedawg Member Staff Member

    I'd have to agree...and it also felt less 'crowded' passing through that area, much more serene. Now with the statue, everything cleared away, and the huge stage in front of the castle, I tend to just avoid that rotunda whenever I go into the park, unless I'm just snapping the obligatory 'Partners' photo.
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