I have that demo on my HTPC and still nothing... I also have the demo from Phillips and another from an unknown source... I don't do anything half way as anyone who knows me will tell you... I do things to the fullest potential whihc leads me back to why I use the camera in the best way I know how. I have the videos for my camera, I've learned from Tim (a few days worth anyways), I read here a lot, I DVR any shows about photography, I trial an error a lot... she hasn't even bothered to crack the book open!