Well, if it's true that my new employer offers a Verizon discount, I may be jumping us over. ; Nancy is getting fed up with not being able to use our phone in the house (which miraculously becomes usable if we step outside). ; Now, I've been told by an electrical engineer that the fact that we used radiant decking on our roof is the reason why we've always had problems with cell phones in our house (same problem existed with Sprint in our Houston home). ; He said the radiant decking acts like a giant signal scrambler bouncing those waves around and making it hard to get a cell call out and in. ; I don't know if that is true or not, but it sounds plausible. If we do get a verizon discount, and the iPhone upgrade in June isn't worth a 2 year contract renewal, we most likely will be jumping ship as long as everything else about the Droid is to my liking
Wouldn't Verizon have the same issues with signal quality? ; It almost sounds like time for one of those homebase cellular VOIP systems.....
Well, if the hypothesis that the radiant decking on our roof is contributing to the problem is accurate, then it wouldn't matter who our provider was, we'd have problems. But, even with that problem eliminated we still have the problem of frequent dropped calls and the fact that the phone does not work, at all at my wife's work but Verizon, t-mobile and US Cellular do
Verizon all the way! ; I am currently using a BlackBerry, but I plan on changing to the Incredible like our faithful leader has.
Awesome, I can't wait to get my hands on one to play with it and see how I like it. ; I haven't heard a bad thing yet. ; Did you put the Lines app on it yet? ; I have it on my BlackBerry and love it. ; They did a nice job of putting it together.
I have the opposite problem where I live and work. ; I have never dropped a call on my iPhone. ; My boss had a Verizon Blackberry before he switched to AT&T and he would drop calls all the time and couldn't even get a signal at our office. ; I guess it just depends on where you live.
So, Tim, does that mean you and the lovely Karen now have two iPod Touches now (for all practical purposes) since they have been cut off from the AT&T network when you dropped your accounts?
I'm with Michael. My iPhone never gives me an ounce of trouble, but the Sprint BB for work is a POS. Call quality is terrible, data is slow, etc etc. It really does depend on the metro area you are in! That said, I live in Indy, travel to Chicago, South Bend, and occasionally Orlando and the iPhone has proven itself over AT&T htc windows mobile and sprint black berries time and time again.
Wow, I am glad I opted for the Incredible. ; Still haven't received it though. ; Hopefully it will come within the next week (supposed to be here by the 11th). ; Can't wait to get it. ; I have a huge list of free apps that I want to try out. ; And if anyone has great photo app suggestions (free or otherwise) let me know. As a follow up question, I think the site says the largest MicroSD card that will work is an 8GB card... is that true or has anyone used a 16GB or 32GB card in the Incredible? ; And does the Camera have any Zoom capabilities (at 8MP, it outshines my Kodak V630 Pocket Camera with the possible exceptions of the Zoom and minor bells and whistles).
the camera is awesome. ; extremely sharp, vivid detail. ; it has digital zoom and you can crop zoom after the fact as well. ; you can also set your w/b, ISO, and a few other parameters. ; i think 16gb is the upper limit for the micro sd card. ;
Red, check out this thread for full-rez sample images... http://www.themagicinpixels.com/forum/index.php/topic,6480.msg57529/topicseen.html#msg57529
No Android phone for me yet. ; Although I am able to run Android on my windows mobile phone using an interesting procedure that doesn't require monkeying with the firmware, so I can play with it and then reboot to windows mobile. ; It's not ideal, but it works and has let me test out Android. But given my commentary on AT&T's shenanigans with the Ipad service pricing I kinda wanted to comment here too. I'm a Sprint user, and for Sprint all talk is about the HTC EVO 4g. ; So far I'm favoring it over the Incredible anyway. ; It's got a larger screen, I like that. ; I'd want to check it out in person first though, some are suggesting it's too big, and I'm going to need to get my hands on it to really see how big it is. ; But it's similar enough to the Incredible, with the same CPU and the same screen resolution. So given what I said about AT&T, it's only fair I mention the downside of the EVO. ; Sprint is charging an arbitrary $10 monthly fee for EVO users that has become known as the EVO tax. ; The official term is the "rich data fee". ; Initially it was thought to be a fee for the 4g network, but it's being charged no matter what network you use. ; Even if you live in an area not served by it you're still being charged it. ; Basically Sprint finally got a big name phone that everybody wants and they're adding a monthly fee for the privilege of using it. ; It's kinda like the Iphone tax, where AT&T Iphone customers have to pay more for their service because AT&T has to pay Apple a monthly fee for every Iphone customer they have, except in this case Sprint has no such overhead and gets to pocket the full amount. So with the talk of AT&T putting a usage cap on their network, it's only fair to mention that Sprint advertises their service as unlimited but the stories going around say that if you go over 5gb a month they'll cripple your connection speeds. ; So at least I have to give AT&T credit for being honest.. at least except for that bit about letting the Ipad come out with the incredibly cheap unlimited service to generate buzz and then changing the deal almost as soon as the Ipad had gotten into people's hands and they'd payed the significant extra cost for the 3g connectivity with the expectation of the unlimited service terms. But the EVO is getting good reviews too, and this is actually the first I've heard of the Incredible. ; I peeked at the specs of the incredible and I like the sound of the optical joystick for on screen navigation. ; Is that like a solid state trackball that tracks your finger moving over it as a replacement for cursor keys? ; I very much approve of that concept. ; One of the things I don't care for about the EVO is the basic lack of hardware keys, including cursor keys. I'll just say it. ; I don't like using my finger on a touch screen. ; I come from the stylus era and I liked it that way. ; This trend towards making screens that won't even work with normal styluses hasn't set well with me. ; Look, my finger has oil on it, I touch and drag it over the screen and I get smears over the screen. ; This seems like a bad idea. ; I still happily use the stylus on my phone, and when I'm not using that I use the cursor keys to navigate through many things. Otherwise the EVO appears to differ also in having a front facing camera for video calling. ; The video calling is done with a program called Qik. ; It also serves as a sort of youtube for mobile users, you can stream videos to their website for live or at least near live playback by others, and they get saved for later playback as well. ; Big deal? ; Probably not, but it's kind of a nifty gimmick at least. ; Note that Qik is available for other Android phones too, but the video calling feature is said to be exclusive to the EVO "for now". ; I can actually get Qik for my current windows mobile phone, apparently, but I haven't tried to do it yet. Also the word is that the EVO gets poor battery life when using the 4g connection. ; Supposedly Sprint is actually advising people to turn it off to optimize battery life. ; That does concern me. ; I read of people having to recharge their Motorola Droids halfway through their day and thought how I'd never find that acceptable. ; If I can get a full day's use in on 3g I guess I'd find that acceptable though. ; That's typically fast enough for my needs. ; I do live in one of the few areas served by Sprint's 4g network at the moment, so at least I'd have the option if I wanted it. So sorry I can't offer firsthand experience on this phone.. I probably won't be likely to acquire it before October when my contract expires and Sprint offers the full discount off the phone's retail price to try to entice me into another contract. ; But with all the talk about the Incredible I had to offer some support for the EVO. ; Given the choice between the two I'm actually glad Sprint went with the EVO, finally I get a crack at the phone I really actually want instead of the best of what's left as offered by Sprint. Yes.. even with that blasted EVO tax, the extra fee that pays for NOTHING but the right to use a phone that I would have already purchased on a service plan that I already pay for, I'm still looking to get this phone. ; I've largely decided that I'm jumping the Windows Mobile ship, the next generation of their phone OS, known as Windows Phone 7, is looking all wrong for my tastes. ; It's like they're trying to be Apple, making a locked down phone that restricts what developers can do and forces all applications to be approved by them before they're distributed through their online app store. ; Oh I know, everyone loves the convenience of the app store, but I checked and Android does indeed allow third party apps that didn't come from the store to be installed.
Dan, the only problem I have heard with the 4G though, is that first of all, it is only truly available in a few markets at the moment, New York, LA and a few other major cities. ; Secondly, I have heard that they are charging another $10 a month on top of the the data fee as a "premium" data charge.
